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Symantec wins $3.1 million default judgment
Symantec said Wednesday that it has been granted a $3.1 million default judgment in its California lawsuit against an accused software pirate.
In April of 2004, Symantec charged that Sam Jain and several co-defendants created fake pop-up ads telling consumers that their Symantec software was preparing to expire and needed to be renewed. People who fell for the trick were sent to a Web site selling pirated versions of the Symantec’s Norton SystemWorks, Norton AntiVirus, Norton Ghost and PC Anywhere products. Symantec also alleged that Jain and his co-defendants sent thousands of spam email messages offering the pirated copies of Symantec’s products.
What will the effect of this lawsuit be? Likely nothing. Default judgments happen when the Defendant does not care enough to show up, has not been properly served, or is indisposed. My guess is that Mr. Jain is “judgment-proof”, that is, he does not have enough assets to really be worth suing. Symantec has spent several thousand dollars in order to get a judge to declare that Mr. Jain owes Symantec $3.1 million, but they have no real way to collect that sum.
Why would I say this? Because of failed Internet marketing start-up eFront.com. eFront was fronted (pun fully intended) by Sam Jain. Now, I have not seen the service of process documents from the Symantec case, but color me just cynical enough to think that we’re talking about the same Sam Jain. Given the nature of the acts alleged and the spectacular failure of eFront, it’s not a difficult leap to make to find that Mr. Jain is having financial problems.
If you are Symantec, what do you hope for? At this point, perhaps you hope for an agreement not to collect if Mr. Jain will find another line of work.
One can always hope.
MickC @ April 20, 2005
How do you know Jain operates vipfares, amxtravel, winantivirus, etc.? Ditto the other names you mention. I’d really like to learn more about these idiots.
Also, how does Symantec even know they got the right guy? Obviously they shut down the web servers with the fraudulent products (presumably at James Reno’s ByteHosting), but that doesn’t prove Jain was behind it all.
Anonymous, how about some facts rather than vague accusations? A fact would be testimony, a website, a document, a witness, something showing that Sam Jain et al. are the wrongdoers.
Perhaps the truth is that the people now involved in winFixer are really completely different from the ones you mention. If so, keeping alive speculation about Sam Jain only helps to hide the real perpetrators.
But perhaps you already knew all that….
There’s a fellow by the name of Sam Jain, CEO of FarePortal.com based in New York City. Any conncetions???
Still Curious, I know his programmers in Ukraine. Not sure about FarePortal.com, I’ll see what I can find out.
Yeah, OK his programmer’s on the moon, I mean Ukraine, and his dog’s name is Sam Jain. He likes to fish, and he drives a blue 2004 Dodge Ram 2500. These are facts?
If anyone could prove this stuff the man would be in jail already.
Check the whois information. Facts is facts, right?
So is the fareportla.com guy the same Sam Jain? Seems suspicious
There is another person with the name Sam Jain that works in the airline industry. I know this because of my pursuit of Sam Jain and found this person. Did you ever think that maybe there is another Sam Jain… I’m not saying all of you information is false but I have to agree with Curious… Where is the proof? I can register a domain in your name in 15 minutes if I want…
Love to know more about this.
I’d love to know more about this. I’m thoroughly infected. the Winantivirus ppopups have put me out of business as of this morning… I wonder if there is any true legal recourse to shut this crap down?
Daniel J Benjamin at hotmail
Hello Gentlemen:
I found this Blog while doing a search for Fareportal on Google.
This is Sam Jain from Fareportal. I have absolutely no relations with Sam Jain of Efront media. This is haunting me ever since he did these fraudulent things and people have been confusing me with this person. I have never met him not have any relation to him.
I do not know how this co-incidence happened, but this is un-canny.
If you want to get in touch with me, you may at Sam@Fareportal.com. I can also have you chat with my lawyers and they can show evidence that this is me. I have owned this company since 1994 and have absolutely no criminal or negative record. we do 100% ethical business.
I wish you luck in your endeavours to find the real person who has caused you this loss and aggravation.
Sam
I plan on suing this individual for my time in restoring my network.
Well done
Yes. I can vouch for Sam Jain of Fareportal as a thorough gentleman and a hardworking professional. I have known him for years and am sure he is not involved in any illegal/fraudulent acitivity. It is rather very uncanny and unfortunate that he shares the same name as the other person from e-front. And people mistake one for the other. Well… not sure if that has any negative impact on the fraudster, but it sure is making the Sam I know of - from Fareportal - seen in bad light for no reason! I wish there is enough and more information on the internet to dispel this misnomer.
I am a former prosecutor in New York and know Sam Jain of Fareportal personally. Sam is a man of the utmost integrity and conducts his business in a most principled and straightforward manner. All of my dealings with Sam have been dealings with someone of great honesty and principle.
Statute@aol.com